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[sosuemetoo]

I know it's been illuded to on several threads. I thought I would start a thread that was based on this subject. This might be the thing that gets Bush impeached.

There's a few links to get it started.

http://www.huffingto...s-cov_3556.html

Rove Blew CIA Agent's Cover

I revealed in yesterday's taping of the McLaughlin Group that Time magazine's emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source. I have known this for months but didn't want to say it at a time that would risk me getting dragged into the grand jury.

McLaughlin is seen in some markets on Friday night, so some websites have picked it up, including Drudge, but I don't expect it to have much impact because McLaughlin is not considered a news show and it will be pre-empted in the big markets on Sunday because of tennis.

Since I revealed the big scoop, I have had it reconfirmed by yet another highly authoritative source. Too many people know this. It should break wide open this week. I know Newsweek is working on an 'It's Rove!' story and will probably break it tomorrow.

http://www.msnbc.msn.../site/newsweek/

Time magazine talked to Bush's guru for Plame story.

By Michael Isikoff
Newsweek

July 11 issue - Its legal appeals exhausted, Time magazine agreed last week to turn over reporter Matthew Cooper's e-mails and computer notes to a special prosecutor investigating the leak of an undercover CIA agent's identity. The case has been the subject of press controversy for two years. Saying "we are not above the law," Time Inc. Editor in Chief Norman Pearlstine decided to comply with a grand-jury subpoena to turn over documents related to the leak. But Cooper (and a New York Times reporter, Judith Miller) is still refusing to testify and faces jail this week.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

Lawyer Says Rove Talked to Reporter, Did Not Leak Name
Sat Jul 02 2005 21:05:04 ET

Karl Rove, President Bush's chief political adviser, spoke with TIME mag's Matthew Cooper during a critical week in July 2003 when Cooper was reporting on a public critic of the Bush administration who was also the husband of a CIA operative.

But Rove did not leak the name of the CIA op Plame, Rove's lawyer said again Saturday night.

Robert Luskin said Rove never identified Plame to Cooper in those conversations.

"Karl did nothing wrong. Karl didn't disclose Valerie Plame's identity to Mr. Cooper or anybody else,'' Luskin said to the WASHINGTON POST. Luskin said the question remains unanswered: ``Who outed this woman? ... It wasn't Karl.''

NBC's Lawrence O'Donnell claimed this weekend, 'Rove Blew CIA Agent's Cover'.

"Emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source. I have known this for months," O'Donnell said.

Developing...

It seems to me like the Republicans and Karl Rove are running for cover. Matt Drudge is usually on the Republican's side. That doesn't seem to be the case this time. I'll let the rest of you chime in on this.

[Cary]

Not surprising but the White House is scrambling to keep Karl Rove from getting a criminal indictment, behind the scenes of course.

Cary

http://www.livejourn...777/767699.html

White House Scrambles to Stop Criminal Indictment of Rove

From Capitol Hill Blue

Bush Leagues
White House Scrambles to Stop Criminal Indictment of Rove
By DOUG THOMPSON
Publisher, Capitol Hill Blue
Jul 6, 2005, 05:55

The Bush Administration is scrambling behind the scenes to stop a criminal indictment against Presidential advisor Karl Rove for disclosing classified information to reporters in an attempt to discredit a White House critic.

Time Magazine emails turned over to a grand jury show Rove leaked CIA Operative Valerie Plame’s name to journalists after her husband, Ambassador Joseph Wilson, went public with claims the Bush Administration knowing used false information to justify the invasion of Iraq. Plame, until the disclosure, worked as a covert operative for the intelligence agency.

“Some government officials have noted to Time in interviews... that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, is a CIA official who monitors the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction,” Time reporter Matthew Cooper wrote in the magazine in July, 2003.

Emails recently turned over to a federal grand jury investigating the leak show Cooper told his editors that Rove was the source of the information. In addition, Rove attorney Karl Luskin confirms that Cooper interviewed Rove for the article but claims that his client “never knowingly disclosed classified information.”

However, a producer for MSNBC’s Hardball program testified before the grand jury that in July, 2003, Rove called the show’s host, Chris Matthews, and said Plame was “fair game.”

As a top White House aide, Rove has "code level" clearance on security matters and would easily have had access to Plame's status at the CIA. White House sources say he requested additional information on both Plame and Wilson before talking to reporters.

If Rove knowingly disclosed classified information he could face federal felony indictments. Sources within the investigation say special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is pursuing such an indictment against Rove but that the White House is pressuring the Justice Department to put the brakes on such a move.

“It’s a power game,” says one Justice Department attorney familiar with the investigation. “The White House is very, very worried that this will come back down on Rove and them.”

Rove has long been suspected as the leak of Plame’s name which first appeared in conservative commentator Robert Novak’s column in July 2003. Novak has reportedly cut a deal with the special prosecutor to avoid jail time but two other reporters who also reported Plame’s name – Cooper and New York Times reporter Judith Miller – could be jailed for refusing to testify before the grand jury.

MSBC political analyst Lawrence O’Donnell, appearing on the syndicated McLaughlin Group talk show, also outed Rove as the source last Friday, saying he has two sources that confirm Rove masterminded the leak.

Bill Israel, a former reporter who teaches journalism at the University of Massachusetts and who taught with Rove at the University at Texas, says Rove could have easily set up the Plame affair.

“Rove once described himself as a die-hard Nixonite; he is, like the former president, both student and master of plausible deniability,” Israel says. “Consequently, when former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson challenged President Bush’s embrace of the British notion that Saddam Hussein imported uranium from Niger to produce nuclear weapons, retaliation by Rove was never in doubt.”

© Copyright 2005 Capitol Hill Blue

[Cary]

The govt. is looking for payback against the reporters on the Valerie Plame case. The judge is supposed hand out sentences today.

Cary

http://www.editorand...t_id=1000973489

Fitzgerald Hits Judith Miller Hard in Tuesday Decision

NEW YORK Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald went after Judith Miller harshly Tuesday while arguing that the reporters at the center of the Valerie Plame/CIA case should not be allowed to serve their sentences for contempt as home detention. A federal judge is expected to decide Miller and Matthew Cooper’s fate on Wednesday.

Speaking of Miller, Fitzgerald wrote, "Certainly one who can handle the desert in wartime, is far better equipped than the average person jailed in a federal facility." Miller, of course, covered (some say, mis-covered) the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq following the U.S. invasion.

Fitzgerald mocked Miller's claim that being denied cell phone and e-mail privileges would be adequate punishment: "Forced vacation at a comfortable home is not a compelling form of coercion."

Miller "could avoid even a minute of separation from her husband," he wrote in another section, "if she would do no more than just follow the law like every other citizen in America is required to do."

Even more troubling for Miller, Fitzgerald seemed to suggest that she could face criminal charges, in addition to her contempt citation.

"The court should advise Miller that if she persists in defying the court's order that she will be committing a crime," Fitzgerald wrote. "Miller and The New York Times appear to have confused Miller's ability to commit contempt with a legal right to do so....

"Much of what appears to motivate Miller to commit contempt is the misguided reinforcement from others (specifically including her publisher) that placing herself above the law can be condoned."

Catherine J. Mathis, a spokeswoman for the Times, said on Tuesday, "We intend to respond to the special counsel's views in court tomorrow."

Fitzgerald also quoted from various journalists to shoot down the reporter's claims that she represents accepted journalistic standards. Among his sources: Bob Woodward, Anthony Lewis, Mark Bowden, Norman Pearlstine of Time, and Steve Chapman of the Chicago Tribune. Fitzgerald noted that these "journalists, First Amendment scholars and opinion leaders flatly disagree with the position Miller is taking at the behest of the New York Times."

He zinged Miller again here: "Special Counsel appreciates that Miller is also someone who thinks deeply. She is an investigative journalist who has won a Pulitzer Prize and authored several books, including one titled 'God Has Ninety Nine Names' that contains a chapter singularly insightful as to the history and orientation of Egyptian terrorist groups. Neither Special Counsel, nor this Court, should lightly conclude that Miller will spend months in jail without thinking more deeply about the issues discussed above and, in particular, thinking about whether the interests of journalism at large and, even more broadly, the proper conduct of government, are truly served by her continued refuals to obey this Court’s order to testify in an investigation in which she is an eyewitness and her putative source has been identified and has waived confidentiality....

"Miller’s views may change over time, especially if what is viewed as her 'irresponsible martyrdom' obstructing an important grand jury investigation is seen to undercut, not enhance, the credibility of the press and, with it, any case to be made for a federal reporter’s shield law."

[Harte]

I really must be missing something....Correct me if I'm wrong, but I for one want the tradition of anonymous sources to continue. This could be very damaging to the public's ability to expose corruption if sources (whistleblowers) can't trust that they'll remain anonymous.

Here, Miller DIDN'T WRITE OR PUBLISH ANYTHING..... How is it we're focusing on her contempt, and doing NOTHING about pursuing the true criminals in the administration that caused the action? This is pure horseshit (MHO)....More smoke and mirrors by the administration

Z-

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Z.,
You're wrong here. This is part of the process of pursuing the criminals in the administration. There must be testimony about who "leaked" this material (the woman's identity as a CIA agent was already common knowlege inside the beltway) in order for a decent prosecution to ensue.

The "whistleblower" you're referring to here is the person that broke the law by leaking the CIA agent's identity. This "whistleblower" is, according to others in this thread, Karl Rove. You are saying that the court should stop pursuing the criminals in the administration in order to pursue the criminals in the administration.

There was a big movement for a shield law back in the 70's after Watergate that would have protected these reporters from contempt charges, but the bill didn't pass, largely due to opposition from members of the press.

Harte