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The Romney campaign has been making much out of an out-of-context President Obama quote.


Speaking in Roanoke, Virginia on July 13 about the necessity of


government for services such as infrastructure, the president said “If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help…Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.”



Listen to it for yourself: the remarks in question were roughly 33 minutes and 40 seconds into the speech:
The Romney campaign, has suggested that the president was telling business owners that they didn’t create their own business, taking the “If you’ve got a business – you didn’t build that” remark out of context.
In a campaign ad, the Romney campaign spliced out the “roads and bridges” the president seemed to be referring to as “that” when he said “you didn’t build that.”
In a new TV ad, Romney features an offended New Hampshire businessman, saying, “My father’s hands didn’t build this company? My hands didn’t build this company? My son’s hands aren’t building this company?”



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I larfed my ass off at this..... Holy shit, can this guy can't get anything right.

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Better question Nancy, how has Obama in any way made it comfortable for those who do hire? Buisness owners are scared to death of his progressive idealism. They have the money, though they are not about to expand, hire anybody, or extend their roots in the American Economy. Nine out of ten business owners when asked are not hiring because of uncertainty. Walmart has stopped hiring full time employees, along with a dictionary of other companies that are the back bone of the economy. Why? Uncertainty. They don't want to spend twice as much to hire somebody if they don't have to.

How do your Socialist positions keep large companies from fleeing our shores? You are in the position that these companies need to 1. do more work. 2. Pay more in both health insurance and taxes.

Why would they stay here? What is your back up plan when they dont? To hire all those left behind as federal employees? Who would pay for that? You do realize the private sector pays for the existence of the public sector right? When everybody is on the "easy way" wagon who is going to pull it?
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Better question Nancy, how has Obama in any way made it comfortable for those who do hire? Buisness owners are scared to death of his progressive idealism.

No, they aren't afraid of Obama. They make more profit by moving their businesses overseas.

They have the money, though they are not about to expand, hire anybody, or extend their roots in the American Economy.

Not when it means they have to play fair.

Nine out of ten business owners when asked are not hiring because of uncertainty.

I'm calling bullshit on this one. What's your source, and exactly how many and what types of bsinesses were polled?

Walmart has stopped hiring full time employees, along with a dictionary of other companies that are the back bone of the economy.

WalMart hasn't had full-time employees since at least the late 1980s. You know, when Daddy Biush was President.

Why? Uncertainty. They don't want to spend twice as much to hire somebody if they don't have to.

And why should they? Shame on the greedy American workers wanting to get ahead, taking a small percentage of millions or billions in corporate profits.

How do your Socialist positions keep large companies from fleeing our shores? You are in the position that these companies need to 1. do more work. 2. Pay more in both health insurance and taxes.

Jesus Christ, I can't believe you're passing off the likes of Mitt Romney as victims.

Why would they stay here? What is your back up plan when they dont? To hire all those left behind as federal employees? Who would pay for that? You do realize the private sector pays for the existence of the public sector right? When everybody is on the "easy way" wagon who is going to pull it?

You know what? People are starting to say "fuck it" to your bent idealism. We're buying American-made goods, and refusing to buy products made with slave labor. What are your corporate masters going to do when better-run businesses force them into oblivion?

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Not sure and don't care and not surprised about political candidates editing each others sound clips.

However, Romney is obviously correct on this, philosophically.

See, those businesses certainly did build those roads and bridges.

Moreso than any single individual, anyway.

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I was wondering if I read it correctly, Seems that the Romney's have a part of their family that's a $77,000.00 write off.

Still looking for evidence on that.

Either way, the Mrs, Dressage Horse, costs that much to maintain and is a supposed tax break due to up keep.

Must Be Nice. And these folks want to be the next president.

I hope were all still around when Zippy makes it to office.

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Ryan's current wealth comes from government spending.... Teaser I am.
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Well, yeah, Bain got tons of federal and state grants and low-interest loans as well as having to pay no county or local taxes on their new businesses.

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Sally Kohn

Ryan Family Fortune Built on Public Works Projects That Romney Campaign Mocks
Paul Ryan is a living, breathing GOP example of how public infrastructure and private entrepreneurship work hand-in-hand.
August 15, 2012 |


When Paul Ryan took to the stage in Mooresville, North Carolina, as Mitt Romney’s running mate, he attacked President Obama’s “you didn’t build that” remark about the role of government in supporting private innovation. But while Republicans have been clamoring to make this election a false dichotomy between the private sector and the public sector, Paul Ryan — heir to a private fortune made by building public highways — is a gaping pothole in that plan. Paul Ryan is a living, breathing GOP example of how public infrastructure and private entrepreneurship work hand-in-hand. Paul Ryan’s great-grandfather started a construction company to build railroads and, eventually, highways. According to the Web site of Ryan Incorporated Central, the company was “founded in 1884 with a single team of mules building railroad embankments in Southern Wisconsin.” And in the 1800s, railroad construction was subsidized by the federal government. Mid-century, President Lincoln signed the Pacific Railway Act into law, providing taxpayer dollars to fund the construction of a transcontinental railway. All railroads thereafter connected to, and benefited from, that public investment.

At the turn of the century, Ryan Inc. turned to road building. A subsidiary family corporation, Ryan Incorporated Southern, states on its Web site , “The Ryan workload from 1910 until the rural interstate Highway System was completed 60 years later [and] was mostly Highway construction.” The $119 billion spent by the federal government on the Interstate Highway System was, by one account , “the largest public works program since the Pyramids.”

And, according to the Ryan Inc. Web site, the company completed “some of the original work at what would become O’Hare Airport” in Chicago. Originally, O’Hare Airport was a manufacturing base for World War II transport planes. In other words, it’s likely that construction project, too, was paid for by tax dollars. A current search of Defense Department contracts suggests that “Ryan Incorporated Central” has had at least 22 defense contracts with the federal government since 1996 , including one from 1996 worth $5.6 million .

When President Obama said that we succeed in America “because of our individual initiative but also because we do things together,” he was actually speaking in more general terms — about manufacturing companies that ship their goods on our railways and highways and thus indirectly benefit from that public infrastructure. With a net worth of up to $3.2 million and ranking as the 124th richest member of Congress, Paul Ryan very directly and very significantly benefited from the federal spending he now rails against.

Or does he? What’s funny is that Mr. Anti-Spending secured millions in earmarks for his home state of Wisconsin, including, among other things, $3.3 million for highway projects . And Ryan voted to preserve $40 billion in special subsidies for big oil , an industry in which, it so happens, Ryan and his wife hold ownership stakes. Yet Ryan wants to gut financial aid for college students, food stamps for hungry families, Medicaid,Medicare and Social Security — the very things that have, historically, helped poor families climb the ladder of opportunity in America.

And this is precisely the problem with the Romney-Ryan vision for America: It takes the ladder of opportunity and public infrastructure that helped the previous generation and yanks it up for the next generation. Your grandfather went to college on the GI Bill? We’re not even going to give you measly Pell Grants! Your grandmother lived independently thanks to Social Security? We’re giving yours to Wall Street to crash with the rest of our economy! Your great-grandfather got rich building public railways and roads? We’re going to cut taxes for the rich to historic lows and raise taxes on the struggling middle class to barely cover the cost of plugging potholes!

It’s “I Got Mine, Now Screw You!” economics. This kind of hard-heartedness may appeal to the extreme fringe base of Republican voters, but it is as repulsive to mainstream voters as it is corrosive to the American dream. The Romney-Ryan budget focuses 62 percent of its cuts on programs that help the poor — in order to pay for more tax breaks for the already-rich and, incidentally, raise the deficit .

“Of course we believe in government,” Ryan said to the New Yorker’s Ryan Lizza . “We think government should do what it does really well, but that it has limits, and obviously within those limits are things like infrastructure, interstate highways, and airports.” In other words, the government spending that helped Ryan’s family get ahead falls within the proper role of government. The government spending that helps other families get ahead …? Fortunately, Ryan Inc. also builds landfills, so we’ll have somewhere to bury all that wasteful spending on the poor and middle class.

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The Hypocrisy is so blatant.
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